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festival techno dlho do noci pri hranici s gazou, tam urobili chybu. 90% vsetkych kratkodobych akcii je riadenych, to uz tvrdili rozni experti davnejsie.
Beslan je to iste, len sa to vymklo kontrole, basajev prekukol pascu a operativne zmenil na mieste plan a vosiel do skoly

Iran sa solidne predviedol, este teraz musi potvrdit, ze ma aj dobru pvo.

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nemyslim, ze by isli s cielom zamerne ublizovat civilistom, ale nakoniec by to dopadlo aj tak podobne.
Rusi by mozno poziadali egypt aby otvoril hranice, alebo sami by povedali, ze pustia von civilistov. Bojovnici z gazy by von nikoho nepustili.
Vypad 7 oktobra bol kvalitne urobeny, rychlo zvacsili uzemie gazy na dvojnasobok a planovali sa tam aj mesiac udrzat. Utoku sa zucastnilo kolko ? 4 - 6tis. ludi. Ak sa tam chceli udrzat, potom v gaze urcite ostala este zaloha 1-3tis. Urcite mali aj plan ustupu. Sklady materialu, obranne body boli urcite aj v mnohych skolach, vacsich budovach.
Kto ma chut ist proti takejto sile do poulicnych bojov? Asi tyzden by vyjednavali o prepusteni zajatcov a potom by tam vosli a pomaly by sa to rozbiehalo k podobnemu finale.
Aky je pomere obeti civil-vojak v mestskych bojoch? A udajne medzi deti rataju 16-17 rocnych bojovnikov.

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hypoteticky priklad na porovnanie. Ked sa hodnoti, co je moralne - nemoralne v azii, tak ako by sme sa k takemu niecomu stavali v europe.
Pozeral som aj rec Lavrova, ale myslim, ze rusi by tiez potlacili akcie gazy tak, ze by sa gazanom z ... kurilo.

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ozbrojeny odpor absolutne zlikvidovat, zrovnat zo zemou kulturne stavby a vsetky dediny

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"nespravodlivostou" po rozpade osmanskej rise bolo, ze kurdi neziskali svoj stat. Aj pricinenim francuzov, ktori chceli mat v sfere vpvyvu vychodne hornate turecko a ropne polia nizsie - okolo mosulu.
Anglicania by kurdom stat dopriali (politika rozdelu a panuj), ale nakoniec vytvorili radsej irak ako protivahu francuzckej syrii (miesto uz iba polovicneho kurdistanu)

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v tis. -----j---------c---------m-------spolu
1890-----43-------57--------432-------532
1922-----84-------71--------589-------752
1931----175----- -89--------760-----1,033
1947----630----- 143----- 1,181-----1,970

tj 2 mio ludi na rozlohe cca 16tis km2, z toho west bank (=judea+plus cast samarie na severe) ma 6tis km2.
10tis km2 na juhu izreala je uz pust.

Ked som videl plan rozdelenia z 1947 schvalenym UN (anglicko, turecko, grecko bolo proti, taliansko nebolo clenom UN), tak vyzeralo to byt trochu nespravodlive - mali pridat arabom pas pozdlz hranice jordanska alebo egypta, tak aby mali arabi pristup k cervenenu moru. Je to pust, ale da sa s tym nieco urobit a je to predsa aj strategicke uzemie do buducnosti. Vedel by som si predstavit lepsie riesenie. Wiezmann loboval za priclenenie pristavu Arce (kusok nad Haifou) do zidovskej casti, ale nevyloboval to.

A narazil som na rozdelenie z 1938 podla kralovskej Peel komisie
https://shorturl.at/c1Lfl
to je ovela fairovejsie, arabi mali pristup k obdivom moriam, ale arabi to neprijali. Navrh zo 47 bol odmietnuty z rozhodnutia arabov z okolitych statov jordansko, syria, egypt

Ak by sa to rozdelilo podla poctu obyvatelov z 1890 - zidia 43 a arabi 430, tak arabi by suhlasili s 10% uzemim na severe palestiny pre povodnych zidov?

Povodni zidia vtedy nezili len v jeruzaleme ale mali usadlosti po celej palestine, aj v gaze
Ja by som to rozdelil v pomere 86/430 alebo 129/430, kedze zidia boli v 9-10st vyhnani (nepriamo cez vysoke dane a obmedzovanie nabozenskych zvyklosti) a dal by som im uzemie na severe, jeruzalem s okolim-otvorene uzemie.
A keby si tam tito zidia pustili dalsich pristahovalcov z europy, to uz je ich vec.

Co by arabi hovorili, keby turci mali zaujem sa prestahovat na juh do judei, a aj by tam prisli a zili napr. od roku 1550-1600. Namietali by v 1920 nieco proti vlastnictvu pody obycajnymi tureckymi sedliakmi?
Turci takisto mohli arabom zburat chram na svetej hore a postavit tam a prehlasit to za svoje svate miesto

V osmanskej risi vlastnil podu aj ich sultan(stat) (ak vojnou ziskanu podu nedaroval za zasluhy priamo nejakemu tureckemu slachticovi alebo statkarovi) a daval ju do hospodarenia dedinam, kde na nej spolocne hospodarili - spolocne pasienky a nejako rozdelene polia. Nikto nebol vlastnikom. Vo vlastnictve boli iba domy v mestach, poda len vo forme sukromnych zahrad, parkov. A poda pod domom a sam dom boli v sukromnom vlastnictve ( v nasom ponimani) aj na dedinach.

V 1858 prijali turci pozemkovy zakon, vytvorili si centralny register a aj poda v dedinach sa niekedy napisala na 1 osobu (ktorej cela dedina doverovala) a casto to bol uradnik, ktory pracoval na pozemkovom urade alebo podobne, tj osoba ktora v tej dedine fyzicky nikdy nebola. To boli aj ti nepritomni vlastnici po skonceni 1sv.

Anglicania tento pozemkovy zakon prijali a nezmenili, objavili sa tam tym padom nepritomni vlastnici ( v turecku vlastnikov pody povolavali automaticky do armady, tj mohli zahynut)
Pritom anglicania mohli zakomponovat do tureckeho zakonu institut vydrzania pody (hospodarenim na nej) alebo dokonca bona-fide nadobudnutie a vlastnictvo by preslo na arabov dedincanov.

Zidia od 1880 kupovali hlavne lacnu podu - piesocne pody popri morskom pobrezi na severe a mocaristu podu okolo rieky jordan tiez na severe pod golanskymi vysinami. Nizsie bolo okolie jordanu uz obsadene arabmi

V 20-40. rokoch neprichadzali do palestiny len zidia, ale aj rovnake mnozstvo arabov z okolitych krajin za pracou - robili pre anglicke spolocnosti, ktore tam budovali infrastrukturu.
Tito sice nic nehovorili o vytvoreni vlastneho statu v palestine, ale hocikedy sa za nimi mohla objavit organizcaia alebo hnutie, ktore by na tom zacalo nastojit, takze so zidmi z europy by si boli eins eins.
tolko internet

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tito ortodoxni, ktori ziju v jerusaleme su dobri
Komu patri zem v judei?
.. tym, ktori dodrziavaji prikazania tory, alebo tym, kto si ju kupia, to je jedno kto, aj krestania aj palestinci..
Nam bude patrit az ked pride mesias... ale nevieme, co presne bude.. vsetci mu budu sluzit.
Tymto aj keby im dali nejaku oblast alebo svoj stat v palestinu v 48, tak by ho ani nechceli... je to predcasne, treba cakat na druhy prichod

skoro som cakal, ze zacne
3:39 ..vole, to je jasny vole..

9:00 povedoma, znama tvar.. poznate?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9lmhjWkzdc

ortodoxnych by tam skor prilakali na Podme cakat na second coming (ako v restaurante na konci vesmiru)

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a co dalej?

Izrael ma 10mio. V jednom videu hovorili, ze okolo 2mio izraelcanov rozmysla, ze odide, pretoze maju dvojite obcianstva. Vratia sa od anglicka, eu, ruska, kanada, usa..
Ostane to tvrdsie jadro a moze este viac pritvrdit..
Ak by odisli vsetci - 10 mio, tak aspon 2 mio pridu do eu. Aby europski arabi s nimi nezacali mat "problemy" a my s nimi.
Nova palestina sa za generaciu namnozi na 20 mio ak nie viac a Libanon bude vo vacsom ohrozeni ako teraz.

Cely projekt odchodu do palestiny som vzdy bral ako projekt europanov, pridali sa aj rusi (zssr) A zidia si akoby vybrali cielovu stanicu.

Podla mna je viac zaujimave objektivne zhodnotit tuto historiu, vycucnut z toho kostru, ktore kroky kazdej zo stran boli logicke, rozumne..bez toho zeby som bral do uvahy, kto je priatel -nepriatel. A zajimal ma hlavne vyvoj do 47.
Ked zacal ostry konflikt v 48 to uz je dalsi diel, cista vojna, to ktora trva doteraz. To uz je vabank jednej aj druhej strany. Ziadne videa ani z jednej ani z druhej strany ma nedojmu. Pretoze na kazdej strane su dospeli, ktori vedia co robia. Nechcel by som vsak taketo zabery vidiet zo srbskych dedin v bosne. Nasa generacia videla dost podobnych zaberov, z 2sv., hlavne z vychodnej fronty a to urcite nebolo nic prijemne

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ich "ideologie", ze boh im slubil zem, tak samozrejme pre inych to je smiesne. Nikdy som to viac ako 3 sekundy nemusel vyhodnocovat. Je to "smiesne", ale na drhuje strane si clovek uvedomuje, ze to sluzi hlavne pre vnutornu potrebu tej skupiny, aby sa namotivovala. V tomto pripade, aby ich vytiahli, zo vsetkym moznych miest, get, dedin, a aby boli ochotni odist par tisic km niekam inam.

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Confusing Lebanon's civil war

https://youtu.be/Xg4Z1iiy7SQ

Toto je slusne spracovane, ani pre ani proti, 19m video na CaspianReport. Objasni zaciatok konfliktu.
Preco sa narp. francuzi nechceli do toho pliest, mozno kvoli unave z alziru..
Ale krestania tam mali postupne niekolko spojencov, mozno preto nepoziadali o pomoc zapad, hoci nan boli pred vojnou orientovani.

Komment z pod ineho videa

Several years ago, I watched a series of shows on political, ethnic and religious groups in Lebanon, most of which were made in Lebanon. Amongst other items, it featured the various conflicts and alliances. At one point, the Palestinians were allied with the Druze, perhaps others, as well. They sent a delegation to Syria to President Hafez Al-Assad to gain his blessing for a Final Solution to the Christian Problem in Lebanon. Christians were to be exterminated except for those who could escape. Assad's answer was not totally based on humanitarian grounds because a kingmaker needs various factions that are competing with each other to play that role as Syria was playing in Lebanon. Still, he was genuinely shocked because the Al-Assad dynasty had no trouble with killing political opponents, but to kill a whole people on the basis of religion was anathema to it. So, Assad rejected the proposal and told the Palestinians that to exterminate the Lebanese Christians was uncivilized and inhumane. That incident always stuck in my mind both for what it said about the Palestinians and what it said about the Al-Assad regime.

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ze eu na libanon akoby kasle, prednost ma gaza, Teda aspon na informacnom poli, a pritom by bolo ovela lepsie preu eu dat do poriadku najskor libanon, poslat tam vojakov, plus financna a moralna pomoc. Mozno eu nieco robi, ale nepise a tom.

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bolo by nemoralne, keby sa srbi riadne pripravili a uplne vycistili kosovo od albancov, vratane starousadlikov?

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a nie je vobec vylucene, ze ich (hlavnych sionistikych myslitelov a planovacov) zcasti v 19 st. neinspirovala aj historia s kriziackymi vypravami.
Keby si bol vtedy mezdi nimi, co by si im navrhoval, ako a s ako idelologiou (alebo radsej bez ideologie?)sa vratit do izraela. Alebo radsej ist do juznej, strednej, alebo severnej ameriky?
Zvolili dost rafinovany sposob, skupovanie pody a na spinavy pracu tam vyuzili blaznivych chasidov?
Ale umoznila im to hlavne osmanska risa, keby sa im tam nepodarilo uchytit uz koncom 19 st, isli by do toho v 1917? Vyslo by im to vtedy casovo, beruc do uvahy (zo spatneho pohladu) ze za 20 rokov zacala 2sv. Stalin pri rozhodovani o vzniku izraeli urcite bral do uvahy, ze zidia tam uz su.

Uz v tom starom cinskom umeni vojny sa pisalo, zautoc, ked mas prevahu. Arabi ich vtedy tiez vyhnali, ked mali sami prevahu.
Mongoli pri dobyvani slovanskych uzemi tiez pouzivali udajne dost zbabelu taktiku, plus moderne luky, ktore rusi nemali. Striellali z lukov zpoza prekazok, pahorkatin a potom sa rychlo na konoch presunuli za inu prevyseninu a strielali odtial. Stale mimo dosahu, bezkontaktne.

RF sa dopredu (alebo aj za chodu) vybavila pre sucasne konflikty ideologiou.

Co sa tyka masoveho navratu, tj povodne ich odislo 50,000 a vratili sa miliony. Vratillo sa ich tolko aby boli aspon porovnatelni v poctoch s arabmi. S tym mozno chladne kalkulovali a ak bolo treba, zintenzivnili propagovanie navratu do ipalestiny/ izraela.

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Ked som ako soplak zacal pozerat (alebo z kuchyne pocuvat )vecerne spravy na orf, tak ako prvy konflikt, o ktorom som v nich pocul bol Libanon, potom vietnam 79-80, Beijrut 82..

A uplne som zabudol na ten Libanon.
Pise sa, ze Libanon zalozili francuzi v 1926, samostatnost ziskal 1944, aby sluzil ako domov pre tamojsich krestanov (prislusnici roznych tam zijucich narodov, vratane arabov, ktori prijali krestanstvo). Krestanov bola mierna vacsina, vlada bola pod vplyvom krestanskej majority a celkovo bol Libanon navonok krestansky stat orientovany na zapadnu europu. Moslimska minorita - sunity v mestach na pobrezi a siti na juhu pri hraniciach s izraelom (preto sa do toho zacal miesat iran).
Bol tam relativny klud aj po nabozenskej stranke, az pokym tam neprisli palestinsky utecenci v 48 a v 67 - dokopy cca 400 tis. Palestinski vojaci povodne utiekli pred izraelcanmi do jordanska, tam si zalozili vojensky stab, ale po nevydarenom pokuse vykonat prevrat v jordansku ich odtial vyhnali a tak sa premiestnili do stanovych taborov na juhu libanonu medzi ostatnych palestinskych utecencov.
Aby si udrzali bojovu moralku odmietli sa podriadit vlade libanonu, ta mala velmi malu armadu, a vytvorili stat v state. S prichodom palestincov sa z muslimov stala v libanone majorita, zacali sa pliest do vnutornej politiky a vysledok - od 75 zacala obcianska vojna.
tolko na wiki

a Libanon ostal doteraz rozvrateny. Trvalo im teda par rokov, kym pomohli rozvratit stat, ktory ich prijal. V libanone zije dokopy 4 mio, ale rovnake a mozno aj dvojnasobok zije v emigracii, najma JA, a to su vacsinou krestanski libanonci.

V gaze je 50% populacie pod 15 rokov.

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Trochu som si zbezne pozrel aka historia sa skryva za tymto konfliktom, no a na par strankach sa pise, ze rimania potlacili povstanie v judei okolo 70-80 CE a vsetkych povstalcov rozprasili. Cast odisla do europy a cast sa usadila v okolitych regionoch, napr. pri mori na hraniciach s libanonom, syriou, v jordansku..ale zhruba este v hraniciach dnesneho izraela.
V roku 700 oblast obsadili arabi, a ako tvrdi netanjahu vo videu, vsetkych zidov vyhnali a ti v druhej vlne znovu odisli do roznych kutov sveta. Tvrdi tiez, ze zidia v judei vtedy zili uz 2000 rokov.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsgGDKvihrY

Na porovnanie, zhruba v rovnakom roku 700 arabi obsadili aj velku cast spanielska, a granadu ako poslednu oblast sa spanielom podarilo dobyt spat az v 1492. Vacsiu cast uzemi stihli spanieli ziskat spat este do roku 1236. Zatial som necital nikde, zeby arabi spanielov vyhanali, alebo ako sa k nim vobec spravali. Spanieli predpokladam arabov vyhnali.

Takze po granadu si prisli spanieli spat po 800 rokoch. Da sa predpokladat, ze aspon raz za 50 rokov tam boli nejake vzajomne sarvatky, takze spanieli sa akoby o to uzemie stale hlasili.
Zidia prisli do palestiny az v cca (zaokruhlene) 1900, teda po 1,200 rokoch.
Podla cisiel, 800 alebo 1200 nie je az taky velky rozdiel.
Problemom je trohchu to, ze zidia sa mozno tiez stale hlasili k judei, ale pisali o tom iba v svojich knihach. Co ale nemusi na prvy pohlad vyzerat ako malo, ked sa zoberie do uvahy, ze boli roztruseni po celom svete a nezili kompaktne v susedstve arabskeho kalifatu, elebo osmanskej rise (ta este viac komplikuje situaciu, lebo ona pokoryla povodnych pokorytelov- arabov), neboli noviny atd.. A arabi o tom mozno ani nevedli?
Osmanska risa ku koncu 19st. povolila imigraciu zidov do palestiny, aj im predavala podu, chcela tym asi urobit gesto voci nepriatelskym krajinam ako rusko a rak.-uhorsko odkial tito zidia prichadzali a nejako tento vyvoj udalosti vyuzit vo svoj prospech.( Z ruska odchadzali kvoli pogromom, ktore zacali po utoku na cara alexandra II v 1882.)
Turci najskor zidom podu predavavli, potom to ale po protestoch arabov stopli, a dalsiu podu zacali zidia nakupovat az po roku 1917, kedy judeu obsadili anglicania, podu tureckych velkostatkarov a vlastnikov skonfiskovali a zacali postupne predavat zidom. Novi zidovski vlastni zivot arabskym drobnym farmarom hospodariacim na pode prenajatej povodne od turkov zivot neulahcovali a aspon do nejakej miery ich odtial zacali vytlacat, v podstate taky isty pristup ako spanieli pred 400 rokmi ale povedzme viac light.
V com je teda rozdiel? V tom, ze spanieli to urobili v 14xx a zidia az v 20 storoci. Od ktoreho roku, je vyhananie dobyvatelov proti nejakym dohodom, pravidlam, zvyklostiam..?

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Kaskader 1987
Nielen elan mal pesnicku Kaskader.

Kocab - Kaskader (Stuntman)

https://youtu.be/IZgVsAxMj1c

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nebudem asi patrit medzi najbystrejsich, kedze som sa za komunistov nedovtipil, preco takmer vobec nehrali sovietsku hudbu. Hravali 1 pasnicku ali pugacevoej.
Prшtom hravali polske, juhoslovanske, madarske, ndr pesnicky.

zssr malo este jednu spevacku, ktora sa ale nevedela tak namachlit a aj vyplyvom intrig ju nepustili do televizie, alebo iba zriedka. Nepatrila do zssr estrady.
Zhanтa Rozhdestvenskaya (1950)
https://youtu.be/7PUcuwVhyw8

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precitat prvy odstavec zahranicnopolitickeho clanoku z dielne poctivej hypotekarnej zurnalistiky, tak idem na pravdazestehlupi.sk
Dufam, ze budu takto pokracovat a naplnat motto jednotka medzi hypok**vami. Ziadne zmeny

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zaujimave, ze pri takychto krokoch, nie je dobrym zvykom predlozit obyvatelsvu analyzu planovanych a neplanovanych vydavkov z predchadzajucich rokov a ich vplyvu na zvysovanie dani.
Na kolko % sa na zvysovani podiela covid saskaren. Je normalne, ze neplanovane vydavky alebo predrazene nakupy sa ospravedlnuju panikou na trhu?
Sucasny zdravotny system je nehoranznost. Lepsi by bol taky mix z europskeho, americkeho a este nejakeho..
Celkova bezplatna zdrav. starostlivost len do 16 rokov. Povinne(solidarne) odvody pre vsetkych - 10-20 eur.
Dalej po 16 rokoch, len zlomeniny, urazy bez vlasneho pricinenia ( ziadni horolezci, sportovi adrenalisti, urazy v stave opilosti, riskantna jazda autom...) dentalna starostlivost (mierny nadstandard) a operacie ako slepe crevo, sedy zakal, nador...
Choroby z fajcenia, alkoholu, obezity.... sorry
Hoci by boloe zaujimave vediet ako sa prerozdeluju prijmy zo spotrebnej dane, kolko ide do zdravotnictva do rezervy na choroby spojene s alkoholm, cigaretami (a nie na nieco ine)
Aj pri ziskani vodicskeho preukazu, by mal vodic uzavriet poistku pre seba (a povinne pre buducich spolujazdcov) na urazy z nehod
Rodicia, ktori si nechaju zjavneho kripla si ho aj zaplatia, odvod 100-200eur, ale ziadne bezplatne drahe specialne operacie a liecby. Kriplov lieca a beznym ludom neposkytnu ani co treba.
Vsetko ostatne cez baliky sluzieb ako v o2 (vykon statnymi lekarmi)
Absolventi slov.lekarskych fakult - povinne 20 rokov odrobit v sr.
Ak by aj kvalita lek sluzieb o nieco klesla, aj ta by bol prinos pozitivny, ludia by sa naucili a boli voci sebe zodpovednejsi.
Nonula, aky mas nazor na zdravotnicky system v europe, anglicku, usa?

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bol hajzel (alebo nebol)
Kennedy Carter Reagan Thatcher Merkel Orban Milosevic Lech Walesa Kurz Bruno Kreisky

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pseudonym a sav sa urazila

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v tej knihe, ze ju stiahli (uz je spat v predaji?)

bola tam spomenuta aj story, ze ked lenina zobrali na koncert, hrala sa passionata od Beethovena, tak po skonceni chvilu ticho sedel a potom povedal, ze to bolo tak krasne a emocionalne, zeby najradsej autorovi rozbil hlavu?

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Dnes sa mi nechce hadat, ale prekonam sa

Hungary - Bosnia 1:3 fandim madarom
Holland - Germany 2:2 fandim teraz nemcom
Albania - Georgia 2:1
Czechia - Ukraine 1:2 alebo 1:1 tazky zapas

England - Finland 4:0 alebo 4:1
Ireland - Greece 1:2 alebo 0:1
Macedonia - Armenia 2:2
Latvia - Faroe Islands
Andorra - Malta

Columbia - Argentina 1:1
Chile - Bolivia 1:0
Equador - Peru 2:0

UAE - Iran 1:1 alebo 2:1
Kuwait - Iraq 1:1

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mal pocit, ze po mne striela leonid iljic a tomu by som to odpustil..lebo by som si urcite pomyslel - vsak ten vie, co robi

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pre nas mohli urobit.
Ked mali v 91 ten prevrat, tak na hlavnom tv kanale ostankino vysielali balet labutie jazero

Teraz, ked sa vova rozhodne stlacit cervene tlacitko, tak by v ruskej tv mohli vysielat zostrih zaberov ako zo sil startuju mohutne leskle raktety a k tomu by hrala, v temnom frigijskom mode hrajuca, 70s skladba Miles Davis - Nardis

https://youtu.be/GzWpVwLcMps

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takto si v noci spim, nieco sa mi sniva, hodiny tam ukazovali 02:30 a v tom sa tam nakreslil vladimir iljic a hovori mi: operacia fanta c, davaj, a ja na to, ze davaj

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ci bol hajzel. Fakt je, ze uz jeho brat bol dost akcny. Vsak sme sa o tom ucili aj v skole.
Lenin mozno taky krvavy nastup v prvych rokoch neplanoval.
Sama revolucia nebola az tak divoka. Februarovy prevrat relativne kludny, a oktober saskaren?
Ale hned sa proti bolsevikom postavili tvrdi protivnici.
Msylim, ze hlavny velitel carskej armady, alebo bielogvardejcov vyhlasil, ze bolsevici musia byt potlaceni, aj keby 90% ruska malo zdochnut (neviem, ci to nepovedal az po zacati obc. vojny).
Vacsina dostojnikov carskej armady presla do radov cervenej armady, lebo mali uz dost svojich nemeckych generalov,
Vtedy bolo velmi vela mladych ludi po populacnom boome, ktory zacal 2. pol 19st , tak si asi generali a velitelia mysleli, vsak zeny narodia.
Intervence armady sa s bolsevikmi tiez neparali.
Situacia na fronte v 1sv vojne bola dost drsna, generali hnali vojakov na jatky, pritom robili ksefty s tazkou technikou a nabojmi s nemcami, car slaby, ked beznych rusov padlo 4 mio, mali toho dost.

Lenin ponechal maly sektor (nep) a velka a rychla industrializacia prebehla aj preto tak rychlo, pretoze bola uz dlho planovana, este mozno niekedy od 1870 - konca 19st, v carskom rusku bol ustav pre osvojenie a vyuzivanie prirodnych zdrojov, sefoval tomu jeden velmi schopny chlepik (neviem uz meno, asi vystudovany geolog, fyzik) kde sa ratalo so vsetkym - otvorenie dolov, postavenie priehrad, elektrarni, fabrik, zeleznicnych tras a bolsevici na to nadviazali.

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France - Belgium 2:1 alebo 2:0
Israel - Italy 1:2 alebo 1:3

Montenegro - Wales 1:1 alebo 1:2
Turkey - Island 2:2

Romania - Lithuania 2:0
Norway - Austria 3:1

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narazim na popis cinnnosti takej divokej figury ako ungern, tak si vzdy pozriem rok narodenia a intuicia ma opat nesklamala- 11886 aka cinsky pes

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ze trojmestie budapest bratislava vieden nebude urcite priamy terc. Rusi vedia, ze vsetko treba stupnovat, takze ucite zacnu polskom a rumunskom. Ak vsak budu fukat nepriaznive vetry, tak nas caka pomala choroba z oziarenia.
Nechat sa vyparit priamo v epicentre nemusi byt najhorsie, je to celkom stylove.
Ak na druhom svete su taki, co ich zrazil mercedes a aj taki chudaci, ktorich zrazil tiko ale trabant, tak mi by sme boli ina kasta (teda, ti z priameho zasahu)

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ked som sa pred 13 rokmi zacal znovu ucit rusky, tak som dost cital o perevale datlova, co bola vtedy najpopularnejsia zahada v rusku. Z eleminacie studentov podozrievali aj miestny ugrofinski narod Mansi zijuci severne od Jekaterinburgu (Sverdlovska), pretoze udajne studenti vykradli mohylu niektore samana, a v okoli, roztrusene po horach este zili jeho priami potomkovia, ktori tam pasli soby a zivili sa aj lovom a predajom kozusin.
V 30. udajne mansi zabili, zenu geologa a hodili ju do jazera.
Prvy vysetrovatel ich mal ako prvych podozrivych a aj ich dost tvrdo vypocuval, nechal stat vyzlecenych na mraze.
Potom sa do podozrenia dostal dalsi tam zijuci ugro narod Chanty, ktory tam ale byval iba cast roku, preotoze bol ovela divokejsi, nomadskejsi, a tiahol dalej cez ural smerom k finsku. Videl som aj video z ich zivota, rusky dokument zo 60 alebo 70.
Chanty boli taki divoky, ze aj komunisti im dali viac pokoja, inym aziatskym narodom brali stada sobov niekedy medzi 40-60, mozno aj 70s a snazili sa hospodarenie s tymito zviertmi koncentrovat v kolchochozoch.

Lenin mal predkov kalmykov, ale to su uz priamo mongoli, jedina vynimka v europskej casti ruska

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ako to, ze ho ondias este nepretocil do kss?
Na hrad, ale predtym najskor do kss!

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vnuci dzingischana, batu chan uzemie na zapad od volgy a orda chan na vychod od volgy

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aj byzantskej rise.
Nedavno som si precital, ze to ich "batka" je od mena dzingischanovho syna batu chana, ktory zdedil severnu cast rise - zhruba dnesne rusko, zssr, kublai chan dostal cinu a treti syn juh - iran a okolie

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ugrofinskej krvi nie je vobec na skodu, vid fini, to je hadam najtvrdsi narod europy.

Putin teraz v niecom pripomina lenina (crtami tvare)

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na navsteve mongolska sa putin poklonil pamatniku dzingischana.
To uz je na urovni galaktickeho statnika. Historia nie je tak dolezita ako buducnost.

Alebo velmi pragmatickeho.
Dzingischan urcite rusom nieco zobral a niecomu ich tiez naucil.

Kto zbieral na skole znamky, tak vie, ze mongolsko malo najkrajsie znamky

Niektori rusi si z toho robia srandu, ze prisiel k svojim (povazuju ho za vespa)

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zasa su na programe male futbalove vojny (euro), takze male odhady

20:45
Germany - Hungary 2:0
Holland - Bosnia 3:2 alebo 1:1

Samozrejme drzim madarom, nemcom od 2012 uz neviem fandit, iba zriedka a velmi mierne, ale skor neutral

18:00
Georgia - Czechia 1:2
Ukraine - Albania 2:2

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neviem, ci to niekoho az tak zaujima, ale davam to sem aj do "svojho" mirage archivu
Hadam najlepsia 3-video seria vysvetlujuce teoriu negativnej harmonie ( okrem kanala jedneho taliana MusicTheoryForGuitar)
chlapik zahra original a potom negative harmony verziu uryvku rock skladby

https://youtu.be/BRGWdrjuxMs?list=TLPQMDYwOTIwMjQZfRD5QWxJ3A&t=1176 (aka 19:36)

Rush - Freewill
https://youtu.be/P_KsWCEahFU?list=TLPQMDYwOTIwMjQZfRD5QWxJ3A&t=761 (12:41)

negative harmony sa da do istej miery napodobit aj obycajnou modalnou zmenou vybranych akordov - ak napr. hra skladbu v C major (C dur), tak moze zamenit niektore durove akordy mollovymi akordami vypozivanymi z niektorej z molovych stupnic (napr. C moll ) a skladba je potom trochu menej vesela, ale nie je to uplne to iste ako negative harmony, ktora da skladbe este menej vesely (plus s trochou vychodnej exotiky) nadych

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prej britain

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zaziva negativnu harmoniu
Breat Gritain

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svajciarky muzikolog Ernst Levy vydumal taku ideu ako negativna harmonia, co su akoby zrkadlove akordy, normalny akord sa stavia z pociatocneho tonu smerom zlava doprava a jeho verzia v negativnej harmonie sa stavia s rovnakymi intervalmi ale zprava dolava (z rovnakeho zaciatocneho tonu), tj zrkadlovo

Stairway to heaven
https://youtu.be/fCP8y5SxwHk

comment section:
If Stairway to Heaven is the forbidden riff, is this the obligatory riff?
Why is it called that?
@johnstuckey262 It's played way too much
legend has it if you play this in a guitar store they won’t kick you out

How to write indie music
Step one: write a classic rock song
Step two: make a negative harmony version of it and then you have an indie song

how Australians hear stairway to heaven
Elevator from hell
lady is Mrs. Robinson
It sounds like Simon and Garfunkel. Did they write each of their songs in negative harmony?
It sounds like a Beatles song
I love Gimon and Sarfunkel....wait
Aaah Led Zeppelin, my favorite Bossa Nova band.
Robert Plant has a great bass voice
This sounds like the song for a movie with a bitter sweet ending, like everyone’s happy, but it required sacrifice and sorrow.
The fact that there's a stairway to heaven but a highway to hell really tells you about the respective traffic to each place
This sounds like an old swedish children’s song. I wasn't thinking of any song in particular, just the general vibe of it. But it does sound a lot like "vem tar hand om hösten" now that you've mentioned it
Strawberry fields to heaven.
why are these negative harmonies so beautiful
Dude this video is gonna get claimed, it's literally just highway to hell
the instrumental is vaguely beatles and the combination of gentle mellow sounds + slightly ominous lyrics makes me think of simon and garfunkel. 11/10.
All the Australian comments would be even funnier if Australia was real.
I still don't get this negative harmony shit, but it sounds lit af
I never heard the original version, so this is the original for me.

other notable covers

Eric Carmen - All by myself
https://youtu.be/-hz_QSY5DYg

REM - Loosing my religion
https://youtu.be/CSZo9ayzXS8

DM - Enjoy the silence
https://youtu.be/Rf7UMhzjmss

No Doubt - Don't speak
https://youtu.be/QawqzHepl3I
Somehow this version sounds more 90s than the original

Frank Sinatra - My way
https://youtu.be/Lh9V5I2KE5M

Nirvana - Smells like teen spirit
https://youtu.be/KRvg_G957wo

Pixies - Where is my mind
https://youtu.be/uNmcqmuhhTY
indie hit from the 80s

Beatles - Help
https://youtu.be/7piPX8LhNzE

Oasis - Wonderwall
https://youtu.be/TomnUEb2FaM

Rick Astley - Never gonna give you up
https://youtu.be/nCNm0I1YIu4

Beatles - Elenour RIgby
https://youtu.be/7qn7twuh6EE

Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
https://youtu.be/G2r7hL1s-yc

Soundgarden
https://youtu.be/nxCN9AGFkV4

Ked zacali v radiach hrat hudbu 90s dlho som si nevedel na nu zvyknut, pop mal casto rovnaky otravny rytmus a rock bol nejako nezmyselne depresivny
Blind Melon - No rain a Soundgarden - Black hole sun to nejako zlomili a na 80s som pomaly zacal zabudat.

Beatles - Why my guitar gently weeps
https://youtu.be/ysqnLPTyUms

ostava si pockat na DP - Child in time

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to je fakt zaujimave, ze zssr vsetkym svojim zapadnym susedom zobral cast ich uzemia, finom este v 39-40, poliakom asi najviac, len madarom nic.
Povazoval ich obyvatelstvo za extremne nepriatelske, alebo bolo za tym, ze v 19-20 mali madari ako prvi republiku rad (bela kun) a sovieti sa chceli pokusit nadviazat na tuto historiu a dat viac legitimity mad. komunistom.

zssr dokonca uvazoval o vstupe na uzemie juhoslavie.

Benes rokoval so stalim od 43, ale zaverecna zmluva o ruskom vplyve bola podpisana az 8.5.1944, takze benes o planovanom snp musel vediet.

anexia zakarpatskej rusi,

In 1944 and 1945, the Red Army pushed out the Royal Hungarian Army and took control of Carpathian Ruthenia, also called Transcarpathia. In 1945 and 1946, the region was annexed by the Soviet Union from the (Third) Czechoslovak Republic, which the Allies considered to be the legal owner of the territory beforehand.

Previous history
At the beginning of the 20th century, the population of the mountainous, economically underdeveloped region known as Carpathian Ruthenia consisted mainly of Ruthenians and Hungarians. The region of Transcarpathia was part of Hungary since the Hungarian conquest of the Carpathian Basin in the end of the 9th century to 1918. Historically it was one of the Lands of the Hungarian Crown before it was detached from the Kingdom of Hungary and attached to the newly created Czechoslovakia in 1918, following the disintegration of Austria-Hungary as a result of World War I. This was then confirmed by the Treaty of Trianon in 1920. However, the autonomy of Carpathian Ruthenia, which was also formally agreed upon in the Treaty of Saint-Germain, was not fully recognized by the Czechoslovak government. When Czechoslovakia came under pressure from Nazi Germany during the Sudeten crisis, nationalists of all stripes seized the opportunity and, beginning in the spring of 1938,[1] attempted to impose full autonomy for Carpatho-Ukraine within the Czechoslovak Republic. About a month after the Munich Agreement of September 1938, an autonomous government was formed under Avgustyn Voloshyn. Hungary had sought to restore its historical borders and the revision of the Treaty of Trianon, on 2 November 1938, the First Vienna Award separated territories from Czechoslovakia, including the southern Carpathian Rus' that were mostly Hungarian-populated and returned them to Hungary. In the dispute between the various ethnic groups, the "Ukrainophiles" now prevailed in Carpathian Ruthenia, who increasingly favored the option of annexation to an independent Ukraine.[2] All political parties except the Ukrajinské národní sjednocení were banned. On March 14, 1939, Jozef Tiso proclaimed the independence of Slovakia. Carpathian Ruthenia also declared itself independent. The Hungarian Teleki government and Miklós Horthy were informed by Hitler on March 12 that they had 24 hours to resolve the Ruthenian question. Hungary responded immediately with the military occupation of the entire Carpathian Ruthenia. As a result of the annexation, Hungary gained a territory with 552,000 inhabitants, 70.6% of whom were Ruthenian, 12.5% Hungarian, and 12% were Carpathian Germans.[3]

The region remained under Hungarian control until the end of World War II in Europe, after which it was occupied by the Soviet Union. Hungary had to renounce the territories won in the Vienna Awards in the Armistice Agreement signed in Moscow on January 20, 1945, which stated that "Hungary has accepted the obligation to evacuate all Hungarian troops and officials from the territory of Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, and Rumania occupied by her within the limits of the frontiers of Hungary existing on December 31, 1937, and also to repeal all legislative and administrative provisions relating to the annexation or incorporation into Hungary of Czechoslovak, Yugoslav and Rumanian territory."[3] The renunciation was reconfirmed at the Paris Peace Conference in 1946 and recorded in the Peace Treaty of 1947, which stated that "The frontier between Hungary and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, from the point common to the frontier of those two States and Rumania to the point common to the frontier of those two States and Czechoslovakia, is fixed along the former frontier between Hungary and Czechoslovakia as it existed on January 1, 1938".[4]

Accession to the Ukrainian SSR
The London government-in-exile under Edvard Beneš negotiated the restoration of the state of Czechoslovakia with the Soviet Union, with which it had been allied since 1943, in Moscow. On May 8, 1944, Beneš and Soviet dictator Josef Stalin signed a treaty of alliance that guaranteed that the territory of Czechoslovakia would be liberated by the Red Army and returned to Czechoslovak civilian control. Carpathian Ruthenia was to be reincorporated into Czechoslovakia while maintaining this status. In October 1944, Carpathian Ruthenia was liberated by the Red Army and occupied by the Soviet Union. The Czechoslovak government delegation led by minister František Němec arrived in Khust to establish the provisional Czechoslovak administration,[5] according to the treaties between the Soviet and Czechoslovak governments on 8 May 1944.[5] According to the Soviet–Czechoslovak treaty, it was agreed that once any liberated territory of Czechoslovakia ceased to be a combat zone of the Red Army, those lands would be transferred to full control of the Czechoslovak state.[5] However, after a few weeks, the Red Army and NKVD started to obstruct the Czechoslovak delegation's work. Communications between Khust and the government center in exile in London were obstructed and the Czechoslovak officials were forced to use underground radio.[5] Furthermore, the delegation had to win the support of the population to remain with Czechoslovakia, because the loyalty of Carpathian Ruthenia to a new Czechoslovak state was weak as a result of World War II. In April 1944, all former collaborators were excluded from the political arena. Collaborators included Magyars, Germans, and those Ruthenians who were supporters of István Fencik's party (which had collaborated with the Magyars). This concerned about one third of the population. Another third were Communists, so that only a third of the Ukrainian population probably sympathized with the Czechoslovak Republic.

After arriving in Carpathian Ruthenia, the Czechoslovak delegation announced its planned mobilization at its headquarters in Khust on October 30. The Red Army prevented the dissemination of this news and instead began to rally popular support. Protests from Beneš's government were ignored. The Czechoslovak delegation was also allegedly hindered in building relations with the Ukrainian minority, which caused the disappointment of the population. Soviet activities resulted in 73% of the population being in favor of annexation.[6]

Soviet annexation

Front page of the Zakarpattia Ukraine newspaper (1944) with manifest of unification with Soviet Ukraine
On November 26, 1944, the first meeting of the newly elected People's Committee, organized by representatives of the Communist Party of Carpathian Ruthenia, was held in Mukachevo. It proclaimed withdrawal from Czechoslovakia and "unification with its great mother, Soviet Ukraine."[7] The Czechoslovak delegation was asked to leave the area. After two months of conflicts and negotiations the Czechoslovak government delegation departed from Khust on February 1, 1945, leaving Carpathian Ruthenia under Soviet control.

Nevertheless, negotiations between the Czechoslovak government and the Soviet government were not concluded. While the right-wing conservative Czechoslovak parties voted against a cession, the KSČ promoted a cession of Carpathian Ruthenia. At the end of 1945, Beneš also confirmed the cession. An agreement was reached with the Soviet Union to postpone the annexation until 1946; the cession to the Soviet Union was agreed by treaty in Moscow on June 29, 1945, and the agreement entered into force on January 30, 1946.[8][9] Czechoslovaks and Ukrainians living in Carpathian Ruthenia were given the choice between Czechoslovak and Soviet citizenship.

Consequences
Over 120,000 people emigrated from the former part of the country. Of the 15,800 Ruthenian Jews, 8,000 emigrated. As a result of the cession, Czechoslovakia lost 12,777 km2 of its territory and about 450,000 inhabitants.

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nie som voj. odbornik, ani ma to extra nebavi
vid konflikt na ukraine, z 80% cisty hnus, zakulisne dohovory, nekompetencia mnohych velitelov ns vsetkych urovniach, na oboch stranach.
Su tam objektivne aj " pozitvne momenty" hodne uznania a to vyvoj voj. umenia, drony, presna artileria, aj ukrajinska aj ruska su svetovej triedy.

Rumuni su zaujimavy narod a ako som uz pisal moj najoblubenejsi, a rozmyslam, ze si nieco precitam ako tam ten nahly obrat presiel, ci stacilo, ze komunisti alebo vlastni popravili antonescu a cele to padlo

SNP zacalo predcasne vinou nejakych blaznivych ukr.partizanov, co prepadli vlak s nemcami vracajucimi sa z rumunska, nebolo uplne pripravene, front a pomoc este daleko.
Ktovie akoby sa to vyvinulo, ak by zacalo podla planu. Preco sa 2 slov divizie tak potupne vzdali?
Myslim, ze nemci museli stiahnut 4 divizie, co nie je malo, ale to sa tykalo uz aj odrazenia rusov na dukle.

V 2003-4 som isiel z vychodu cez poprad a vidim pri ceste bol voj cintorin, tak som sa zastavil, par radov som len tak rychlo presiel, vsetko 18-20r nemci.

Ceski politici v cssr o snp neradi hovorili, ak s tym benes suhlasil (ale urcite nemal na vyber), bral to aspon ako pomstu tisovi?, preco tam nebolo viac ceskych partizanov...

Vsetky tie prejavy o snp, to je take na 50% ohlupovanie, emocie, drzanie v nevedomosti, nedopovedana pravda, clovek ma z toho blby pocit, ze objektivne fakty mu nikto nepovie.

V madarsku sa im nepodarilo nic zorganizovat, ale madarov mali v zuboch..

V urcitom ohlade sa snp najviac nasledne podobala druha cecenska 2000-09, uz skor partizanskeho stylu, tiez v horach

eliminovali auto s takmer neozbrojenymi a tesia sa ako v cirkuse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24GY5krmCuU

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velky etno-manager, v rf sa inak asi neda

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yt mi ponuklo hud video
Bert Kaempfert - sweet maria.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBbyMZdHDtk

Uz som to niekedy pocul, pripominalo mi to hudbu z filmov, mozno spagetti westernov a viem, ze niekde som cital, ze je to priklad modernej hudby napisnej v tzv ukrajinskej dorian tonine (povodne v tom boli pisne ukrajinske balady - dumy uz 15. st, citit vplyv osmanskej rise, taky juzno -vychodno balkansky styl, s prichutou arabskej muziky, hra sa aj na slovensku, rumunsku, malo v madarsku ak vobec, ale teraz som tuto info uz nevedel najst, boli tam len priklady na ine skladby, ale v obycajnej dorian tonine, - eleonor rigby, bill jean...

ak mate najzakladnejsiu stupnicu c dur C D E F G A B C, tak dorian mode su tie iste klavesy, ale hrane v posunutom poradi od D, tj D E F G A B C D, to da skladbe hned iny nadych, pretoze skladba sa zacina vzdy akordom (min. 3 tony) postavenom na prvom tone toniny a nasa mysel preto ocakava, ze melodia takym akordom aj skonci, prvy ton udava tzv home okolo ktoreho sa toci pesnicka.
Ukrajinsky Dorian mode je taky, kde 4 ton je zvyseny o pol tona, a siesty a siedmy su znizene o pol tona - G#(sharp), Bb, Cb(flat).
G# je jeden z poznavacich tonov ciganskej hudby ( humgary minor scale aka gipsy scale)

Tak som klikol na wiki Bert Kaempfert a tam je info, ze napisal aj znamy hit pre franka sinatru - strangers in the night. Sinatra sluzil ako predloha pre postavu johnnyho fontanu, co bola asi jedina kapitol krstneho otca, ktoru som rad cital, odohravala sa v las vegas a neboli tam moc spominani sicilcania..
Internet hned ponukne suvisiace clanky a tak som narazil na clanok, ze sinatra tu skladbu absolutne neznasal, "the biggest bollocks song i ve ever heard. I hate it, i detest it."

Prvykrat som pocitil sympatie k sinatrovi, pretoze ta pesnicka je skutocne taky otravny earworm a clovek na nu v 99% pripadoch nema naladu.

Ale mam podorenie, ze sinatra sa tak vyjadril, kvoli tomu, ze Kaempfert bol vyznamnym hudobnikom aj v 3 reichu.

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info by bola, koho to bola idea
1 sovietov
2 slov. komunistov
3 Svobodu

ci sa to predpokladalo uz pocas rokovani Benes - Stalin niekdey v 43.
Aky postoj k tomu mohol mat Benes.

Podobna situacia na zaciatku vojny, ked sme isli s nemcami do polska, to bola urcite idea nemcov. Potrebovali spojenca kvoli PR

Podobne bol bush ml nadseny so schustera, ze ten ho ako jediny z kont. europy na stretnuti medzi
ocami naozaj podporil, neviem, ci aj nie poliaci, ktori do iraku poslali aj kontingent a mali tam svoj sektor na kontrolovanie

Vyznam bol hlavne stiahnut sily nemcov z polska, kde sa planovala velka krakovsko ostravks operacia, hovoril o tom gen. pluk Moskalenko, ktory bol z 4 ukr. frontu a viedol utok cez duklu.

https://stuki-druki.com/authors/Moskalenko-Kirill-marshal.php

pise sa tam, ze u clenov stavky mal prezyvku general panika (aj zukov ho tak nazyval - nie do oci)

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hned som vedel, ze zabrany nie je spravny vyraz.
To je vysledok toho, ze ak na internete nieco pisem, tak bud v ang alebo rus. A citam len rus a ang, obcas, cz, pol, a snazim sa hun.
Po odoslani prispevku v slovencine, zrazu hned vidim svoje gram. chyby - ciarky, iy, preklep, az mam pocit, ze pri slovencine mam dislexiu

On mohol mat noz pri sebe stale, a tu sa nanho nemka pohrdavo pozrela a rozhodol sa (ked videl, ze lahko odide - ak by tam boli zatarasy a sbs, tak by sa mozno rozhodol inak, alebo by si pockal na inu prilezitost.)

Nie je keramicky noz v rozpore s koranom?
A nemci nemali samozrejme nic, ani kuchynske solingeny, ani krigle, ktore sa daju rozbit a nejako s ich ostrim sa branit, spraje, tasery, dazdnik..

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na youtube sa objavilo video, kde starmera majitel vyhodil z baru, kvoli sucasnym nepokojom v anglicku.
Ale ukazalo sa, ze to video je 3 roky stare

https://youtu.be/jyoDJ1Fk47E

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Niekedy aj poloblb urobi rozumny krok.

Starosta mesta nazval oslavy vyrocia mesta festival diverzity, takze dufam, ze rozumni nemci, ktori sa nepotrebuju zabavat, pivo si otvoria aj doma, tam nesli.

A ti, co tam isli, vedome alebo alebo v horsom pripade nevedome sa zucastnili darwinovej sutaze. Ostava len dufat, ze este viac nemcov si z toho zoberie ponaucenie, pretoze vzdy sa zakratko zacnu ozyvat hlasy, ze nesmie sa prestat zit (rozumej zabavat hudba divadlo kino.., lebo citat uz ich nebavi)

V anglicku bolo v poslednych tyzdnoch takych pripadov niekolko, takze toto nie je bezna kludna doba v europe, a niekto ako starosta s poradcami si nevedel polozit otazku, bude to u nas bezpecne, nepreskoci iskra aj sem (nech by bola pravdepodobnost len pod 10%).

Kedze sa rozhodol nazvat oslavy diverzitou, predpokladam, preto tam ani neboli zabrany a prehliadky osob, aby neurazili moslimov prehliadkami. A urcite to bola iba na hlavnom namesti a par bocnych uliciach, takze ziadny velky problem to ustriehnut ( pokial by sa utocnik neschoval dopredu v niektorom dome, alebo si tam neukryl noz dopredu.)

Zabrany predsa uz raz boli pocas vianocnych trhov v nemecku.
Keby boli zabrany, tazsie by odtial usiel. Co usetrili na zabranach a sbs, to teraz 100x preplatia pocas hladania toho individua.

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