Nová Francúzska revolúcia?

Na fotke Marine Le Pen s Jordanom Bardellom, ktorý bol volebný líder jej strany vo voľbách do Európskeho parlamentu.

Všetci zatajujú dych. Gerontofil Macron po prehraných voľbách do EÚ nerozmýšľal a vyhlásil predčasné voľby vo Francúzsku. Všetci sa zhodujú, že to bola najťažšia chyba, akú kedy urobil.

Dnes sú tie voľby, o týždeň druhé kolo (na detaily sa ma nepýtajte - proste majú väčšinový systém). Volí sa iba parlament, funkcia prezidenta má zostať nedotknutá (čo je čudné). Aké sú preferencie?

Na prvom mieste Marine Le Pen so svojím RN. Druhí sú akýsi "ľavičiari" (NFP) a až tretí je Macron, označovaný za stred.

Macron dostane okolo 20 %, čo mu neumožní v žiadnom prípade utvoriť či byť v nejakej vládnej koalícii. V podstate je otázne, či sa vôbec nejaká väčšinová koalícia polepí.

Veľké tajomstvo je zlý muž z Francúzska, ktorý je vlastne žena - spomína Marine Le Pen. Vraj je to "radikálna pravica". No áno, jej otec bol úprimný Jean-Maria Le Pen (nedajte sa zmýliť krstným menom, to je zas muž), o ktorom si mnohí myslia, že bol priam SS-man. To určite nie, len to bol francúzsky vojak. Marine Le Pen ale nebojovala, ona je niečo úplne iné - upokojujú sa mnohí. Marine to bude hrať do stredného prúdu, teda žiadna veľká zmena - utešujú sa.

Lenže situácia vo Francúzsku už nezávisí od schopností alebo od charakteru Le Penovej. Tá situácia je daná skutočným zadusením krajiny miliónmi farebných prisťahovalcov a nepriateľským militantným islamom. Preto volia bieli Francúzi tento pravicový radikalizmus.

Aby sme si uvedomili - Macron osobne ako prezident vo voľbách automaticky nepadne, ďalej tam mieni sedieť ešte tri roky. Ako bude spolupracovať s parlamentom, s novými radikálmi, to si asi nevie nik jasne predstaviť. Francúzsko smeruje k ťažkým nepokojom, chaosu, možno aj občianskej, náboženskej či rasovej vojne.
Bodka.

Do toho ešte onedlho začnú Olympijské hry, takže bezpochyby oprávnene sa mnohí obávajú bombového a iného terorizmu.

Režim, ktorý Amerika zaviedla po vojne na Západe, tento režim jednoznačne možno označiť za kolabujúci. Je dosť pravdepodobné, že vo Francúzsku prejde do otvorenej diktatúry. Nie diktatúry "radikálnej pravice", ale naopak, diktatúry globálnych bánk. Hlavný diktátor by bol Macron (ktorý tak samozrejme bude, ako vždy, len "zachraňovať" demokraciu).

Pozitívna verzia: Rassemblement national sa ujme moci a v Európe sa nastolia iné pomery. RN ako-tak zachráni Francúzsko a my všetci popri tom zachránime naše národy.

Taká je pozitívna nádej. Nie výsledok prísnej analýzy, ale proste nádej.

https://spravy.pravda.sk/svet/clanok/715567-ovladne-francuzsko-krajna-pr...

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mirage

posobi, akoby lepen isla zrkadlit prezidentsky par.

Norman

no očividne je happy, chlapík má jej dôveru. Je pre ňu dobre ukázať, že sú tam mladí ľudia. Starý Le Pen ešte žije, azda cíti aspoň určité zadosťučinenie.

Azda sú francúzske kvality ešte nie celkom mŕtve.

Pre atmosféru:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO_lgVXvscA

 

(pre info: táto verzia songu volá po návrate otca k rodine ... ale predmet smútku je všeobecný, univerzálny pocit - 

Vien vien,  Le Pen  :)

mirage

Skandal, tak to nie je duchon original?
vVkomentoch dokonca pisu, ze original je od americana Simon Butterfly - Rain Rain Rain (1973)

https://youtu.be/Yi6LuDaa4qQ

Ti nie su az tak od prirody sentimentalni (piesne su skor haunting)

Az ma to vratilo do 70.tych, ked taketo casto hrali v radiu.
Tieto smutne romanske pesnicky clovek trochu oceni az s vekom.

A voyage voyage pre Emmanuela, aj ked treba uznat, ze vcelku ferovy, ked vypisal volby

Norman

áno, prvú verziu vraj spravili nemci a amíci, tiež som tú verziu počul v tieto dni prvý krát, "Rain rain", to bolo slabé, pop s gýčom, ale práve Francúzom a tej speváčke sa už v tom roku okamžite podarilo to výborne spracovať. V takomto baladicky smutnom tóne dokážu svoje chansóny robiť asi iba Francúzi. Väčšina národov ,a zvlášť v týchto časoch, sa za smútok či dokonca znechutenie hanbí Hlúpa doba, tá dnešná, naopak koniec 60 tych rokov bol v mnohých ohľadoch vrchol ľudstva .
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Duchoň to tiež výborne spravil, u neho to bola ale viac taka bojová tónina.

mirage
mirage

Patriotisches Manifest – Erklärung mit Herbert Kickl, Viktor Orbán, Andrej Babiš & Harald Vilimsky

FPÖ TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83O3Dp0gY24

v mad. (V Orban)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_B5OICd0I4

A od nas nikto, aj ked sme minim. 3-jka v odmietani imigrantov, rf nemoze, uhrika by asi nepozvali (hoci tenvie slusne po angl.), z polska by mozno tiez niekto prisiel, ak by to bolo iba o imigracii a nie aj okrajovo o ukrajine

3:44 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome here in Vienna to a joint press statement by three
3:54 European leaders of European politics. I am particularly pleased
4:00 that Prime Minister Viktor
4:07 Orban, Chairman of the Hungarian Parliament, has come to us at the invitation of our chairman Herbert Kickel. I am also pleased
4:13 that the Chairman of the ANO from the Czech Republic Andrej Babisch has come to us here
4:20 and of course our chairman Herbert Kickel is the host.
4:26 And the crucial thing to make clear in advance is that this will be a
4:34 press statement, a kind of joint statement by the three and that is part 1
4:41 of a press conference, where the second part will then be a
4:48 press conference in Brussels or Strasbourg with the opportunity to answer any questions that may arise.
4:54 Today is the day of the press statement short notice
5:00 arranged you know that Hungary is taking over the EU Council Presidency tomorrow, so this short notice
5:05 arranged press release cannot be requested first that our chairman Herbert Kickel
5:13 says the introductory and explanatory words thank you yes thank you Harald Wiimski
5:19 hello ladies and gentlemen today is a historic day
5:24 because today we are entering what I would like to call a new
5:30 of European politics and I am talking about an era of freedom I am talking about one of sovereignty, peace, prosperity and
5:41 values ​​if I think back a little then a decade ago the Freedom Party was represented in the European Parliament with only
5:48 two non-affiliated representatives and at the time we were actually without
5:55 political significance but and this is a very important point but we
6:00 have a big potential and this great potential that I am referring to consisted in the fact that
6:06 we consistently positioned our Freedom Party internationally in accordance with the good Austrian spirit,
6:13 that is, as a political force that put our homeland, our perpetual neutrality and above all
6:21 the Austrian tradition of bringing people together to talk to each other and find common ground
6:28 at the centre and exactly three weeks ago today we had the European elections in
6:34 Austria and the Freedom Party emerged as the winner of these elections
6:40 strengthened with six mandates, a doubling and we accepted this election result, this historic
6:46 result very gratefully and humbly and our task now is to give this will of the voters the
6:53 greatest possible importance and the greatest possible power also at the European level and I can therefore
6:59 present to you today an alliance, a new political alliance consisting of patriotic
7:06 forces that all play a leading role in their countries
7:12 this alliance is intended to be a carrier rocket, so to speak, and to take other parties on board at the European level
7:19 in order to then, together with united forces, give Europe a good future again for our
7:26 generation, for our children and for all those who come after us, as you know
7:32 the new European Parliament will be constituted on 16 July in Strasbourg and in
7:37 observance of the deadlines in the run-up to such a constitution, we are presenting this group today
7:43 consisting of three parties and their representatives, which will establish this new positive
7:49 patriotic movement in Europe and thus also initiate this
7:54 necessary political turning point, from now on from this
7:59 impulse of today from this state decision are all political forces that want this and that in
8:06 we want to include our political and positive reform efforts, welcome and after what I have heard
8:13 in the last few days, so what I can already see in the background, there will be more than some of
8:18 you probably suspect at this moment our Freedom Party has thus positioned itself very successfully on the
8:24 international package as a mediator and networker
8:30 we stand today for what Austria as a whole has long stood for in its political self-image
8:37 and what we want it to stand for in the future, also with the help of this
8:43 new alliance Austria as a place of negotiations and encounter
8:48 Austria as a hub between East and West as a motor for relaxation and for peace and as a country in
8:55 the middle of Europe that once again has a good name internationally thanks to its
9:00 credibly lived policy of neutrality ladies and gentlemen, on the one hand, today is on my side
9:07 The Hungarian Prime Minister, Viktor Orban is currently the only
9:12 head of government in the European Union who is successfully fighting against illegal
9:19 immigration, against the abuse of asylum law and against excessive
9:24 centralism and these presumptions and aggression by the European
9:29 Union and he is a head of government who, conversely, is standing up for
9:35 the established values ​​of Europe, for the family and for the Christian
9:40 Western heritage of our continent and for me it is a
9:45 hopeful and it is for me a very very encouraging sign that after the FPÖ and Viktor Orban have always
9:52 advocated a peaceful solution to the war between Russia and Ukraine, which we condemn,
9:59 the Pope has now also raised his important voice and loudly called for a ceasefire and Peace
10:06 has been used to give our political alliance here and today a very special touch, I think. Mr.
10:14 Prime Minister Viktor Orban, welcome to Vienna. It is a special pleasure and honor for me to have you here today.
10:20 And it is also a special pleasure and honor for me to welcome the
10:26 former and, according to all surveys, the future head of government from the Czech Republic, Andrej Babisch, to my side. As a successful entrepreneur and politician, he has played a decisive role in shaping Czech
10:38 politics in his homeland and now he is becoming a central factor in this new
10:44 patriotic alliance. His party, Ano, stands for a path of reason. This means, for example, that national competencies are anchored in the homeland again. This is actually exactly what the
10:56 postulate of subsidiarity will provide for. He opposes the rampant
11:02 illegal immigration and also calls for a peaceful solution to the war between Russia and Ukraine
11:09 and it is precisely these sensible positions that have made Andrej Babisch and his ANO no longer compatible
11:15 with the fanatical ideas of the EU centralists and therefore a move to our alliance was
11:21 an important and correct step I believe not only ladies and gentlemen, but I am convinced that
11:28 ANO will not only feel very comfortable in our midst but above all will make a significant contribution to a good
11:33 European future Andrej Babisch welcome here with us in
11:39 Vienna for me as a representative of Austrian politics it was very
11:44 of particular importance that we Austrians are allowed to start this new initiative with two of our neighboring countries
11:51 because we are thereby forming a strong core of this new reform movement in the middle of Europe and, as I have already said, I am convinced that in the coming days even more many
12:03 others will join Austria Hungary Czech Republic this is a very special and a very strong
12:09 force field for a positive reform movement and it fills me with pride as an Austrian patriot in the
12:15 best sense of the word to be able to be here today at this opening event
12:20 founding event it has always been said that the
12:25 international of the national that is an impossible thing that is a contradiction in itself but the
12:32 alliance that we are presenting to you today proves the exact opposite we are
12:37 not concerned with breaking up Europe we are not concerned with destroying Europe as the centralists like to claim
12:44 to unsettle people and to derive their own legitimacy from invented threats quite the opposite
12:52 quite the opposite we see our task as reviving the pluralistic character of our continent
12:57 we are reviving see it as our task to ensure that the characteristics of the wonderful nations of Europe are preserved and can develop in a harmonious way, that we ensure cooperation wherever it is necessary and also to the advantage of our peoples and all of this on an equal footing with one another and in friendship and friendly solidarity with one another and that is exactly why we will not, under any circumstances, stand by and watch as a European superstate develops in which the parliaments of the member states, which are legitimized by their citizens, are then cut down or degraded into a kind of folklore department, and where sovereignty and self-determination of the individual states are only empty shells, empty words and empty concepts that no longer have any power or meaning in reality, we who are sealing this alliance with our signature today, we want a
13:58 Europe that can once again present itself with pride, with a sense of values, with tradition and with diversity and
14:04 develop it further we do not want to leave our Europe to the vonderlines, the Macrons or any left-wing ideological
14:11 experiments no, we do not want to be a plaything of other people’s interests
14:16 and let ourselves be driven into conflicts or even a warrior for foreign purposes no and we do not want
14:22 an EU government with a total loss of national competences no, we are in favor of the elected
14:30 people’s representatives in the member states being revalued yes, we want
14:36 that direct democracy can also carry more weight and be more important than European law yes, we want a
14:43 Europe of real subsidiarity with a clear commitment to diversity on this continent yes, we want
14:50 this EU administration to be slimmed down yes, fewer commissioners at least by a
14:55 third less than the EU has actually prescribed for itself we want an EU Parliament that is significantly
15:01 smaller in size, roughly the size of the US House of Representatives 435 to 720 in the
15:07 EU Parliament you can see that something is going in the wrong direction and we want to drastically reduce the influence of the 35,000
15:13 lobbyists in Brussels yes and in return we want to massively increase the influence of the peoples
15:20 yes and we want to bring the powers from Brussels back to our home countries yes, so you can see a through and
15:28 through it and a good program for the peoples of Europe as you all know after
15:35 the Brexit referendum there was a white paper from the EU Commission and there were five scenarios five possible
15:41 development scenarios for the future of the EU and two of them
15:46 I actually like quite a lot one is what can be described as coalitions of the willing, which means
15:54 that only those states that want this will engage in deeper cooperation in areas where they consider it
15:59 necessary and the other is the so-called scenario number 4, which can be
16:05 summarized with less but more efficiently and that is also the scenario that we negotiated in the government program with our coalition partner at the time in 2017. We certainly don't need
16:19 a European Union that interferes in everything, from the degree of tanning of our bomfritz to the
16:26 addition of insects to our food to a left-green
16:31 climate dictatorship that is imposed on the entire continent and which in reality only leads to planned economy-controlled
16:37 deindustrialization and a gigantic destruction of prosperity on the continent. We need a lot
16:44 more a Europe that lives up to the original goals of European cooperation again, that it
16:50 revives it, that it fills it with life and passion, it is about peace, it is about freedom, it is about security, it is about prosperity for as many citizens of this continent as possible,
17:04 Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to conclude by thanking you very much for coming today,
17:10 to this presentation of our joint declaration and now I can hand over the floor to the
17:16 Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, to whom I am very, very grateful that we have been given this time slot today,
17:22 because I know that he is very, very busy on the day before the day on which Hungary takes over the
17:28 Council Presidency and thus also the fate of the European Union for the next 6 months, Mr.
17:35 Prime Minister Viktor, dear Viktor, it is
17:43 the day of the floor, ladies and
17:49 gentlemen, now it is this day too
17:54 has come, the historians will decide
17:59 how important this day was, we think it is the day on which
18:08 the change in European politics began I have been in
18:16 politics since the mid-80s and also
18:22 international since 89 I have seen everything that has happened in the last 25 years
18:27 in ​​Europe and politics
18:32 that gives me the legitimacy and the
18:39 international courage to say that 1989 was an honor for European politics
18:47 the wall had fallen and this era
18:54 was concluded with the current elections that was 25 years and that
18:59 has now come to an end, now a new
19:06 honor begins and the first perhaps decisive moment of this new honor is the disfigurement of a new
19:13 group that will change European politics first of all I would like to
19:21 thank Chairman Herbert Kickel for allowing me to be there we
19:26 have known each other for a long time and I have always been an
19:32 admirer of Herrmann not only because he made the
19:38 Freedom Party the largest party in Austria, but I also greatly appreciated the
19:44 government policy you have made in terms of immigration, so it is an
19:50 honor for me to be in Vienna today following his invitation last week there was a lot of news in
19:58 and Brussels which
20:04 party organizations have been set up, we did not comment on it, we worked quietly and thanks to Mr Chairman
20:16 kickel this work led to a result and now we are creating a
20:22 political formation that will be rocket-like in my opinion and
20:30 will soon be the largest faction of right-wing forces in Europe that will happen in
20:35 a few days and then the sky is our limit that is
20:43 then another press conference regarding the European situation that is
20:51 clearly European politics needs to be changed that is what they say we have been doing this for a long time
20:59 but that is less important than the fact that the people of Europe
21:05 said that in Europe a change is needed in 20 of the 27 countries
21:13 parties that promised the citizens a change have won
21:20 in 20 of the 27 parties that
21:26 the change I was in Brussels for weeks and I see
21:31 clearly that the Brussels elite is resisting them in Brussels they do not accept
21:38 the decision of the Europeans they do not want any change they want to hold on to the status quo that is unacceptable therefore
21:47 this current joint group and platform is being created so that the
21:52 change is implemented despite the will of the Brussels elite
22:04 they know themselves that the European economy is in a crisis
22:11 the economic weight of Europe is declining the threat of terrorism and
22:16 illegal migration has become a thing and there is a war in our neighborhood
22:23 where we could not prevent it from breaking out and after the outbreak we could not stop it, so we live
22:30 in the shadow of a war escalation the Europeans want
22:35 three things peace order and
22:41 development and what they get from the current Brussels elite is war
22:47 migration and
22:54 stagnation in addition to the external bad circumstances
23:00 the bad wrong faulty political decisions of the current Brussels elite have also
23:07 contributed to this they have made the European economy incapable we are on the brink of a
23:14 trade war with the potentially most important partners and they have also messed up the green
23:19 transition what is now going on in Brussels is not green politics but like
23:26 we in Hungary say a poison netics D we are not cured but
23:34 poisoned today more hard coal is consumed in Europe than before the Green
23:42 Deal and the prices are much higher than before and that is affecting the economy Z
23:52 Basically the political change was initiated in
23:57 Europe because several European governments had to resign because of the
24:04 EP election this is proof that democracy is only possible within a national framework
24:11 the national governments had to take note of the Europeans’ decision and they also
24:17 resigned but the elite in Brussels is resisting because Brussels is not a democratic construction in this
24:24 situation we have a duty to enforce the will of the voters
24:31 there are three political parties here the strongest Austrian party the strongest
24:38 Czech party and the strongest Hungarian party and we take on the
24:43 responsibility of launching this new platform and launching this new group.
24:49 I would like to make it clear that our goal is and that we
24:55 believe that this will happen soon. This will be the strongest right-wing
25:02 association in European politics. This is why our patriotic
25:11 manifesto, which you will soon be able to hold in your hands and which we will sign, will summarise the thoughts and
25:20 goals of what we want to work on. I would like to underline once again that
25:25 it is an honour for me to be invited by Mr. Kan and I only have one more task to pass on the
25:31 word to the Chairman. I would like to say a few words here. Mr.
25:38 The Chairman has already spoken about the fact that in politics in Hungary
25:43 we do some things differently than is usual in Brussels. We do not support the
25:50 migration illegal migration is stopped by us we represent the
25:58 family we believe in national sovereignty important thoughts ensure
26:05 that Hungary today is an island of difference in the great liberal sea
26:10 of Europe but you know all that is nice but too
26:16 little and I have learned from Chairman Andre Babisch that
26:23 that is not enough, something else is needed, otherwise politics will not work
26:29 these ideas are not, something else important is needed and he has shown that most clearly in Europe
26:35 it needs success, it needs good government activity
26:43 and even as finance minister I always showed him respect because he was the best finance minister in Europe
26:50 What he did with VAT was a small financial miracle, of course you don’t remember it
26:57 but I can remember it very well because we found solutions with him and what he did as
27:03 Prime Minister in the Czech Republic was a brilliant success, it was one of the most successful
27:09 European governments that he led and that is proof that ideologies alone do not last
27:17 you have to link them with government successes, a representative is for me Mr Chairman
27:24 Babisch and that is my It is a pleasure to give him the floor, others please
27:34 yes, good day, ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much for the floor, thank you very much for
27:40 the opportunity to speak here, thank you very much, Mr
27:47 Prime Minister and Mr Chairman for our joint statement
27:53 and I thank Viktor for these words, I
27:58 am not used to being praised like this, so it is a great honour and pleasure for me to address you here today at
28:07 our historic press conference, we have decided
28:12 to establish a new political group in the European Parliament
28:19 Patriots for Europe, we are here together because we are united by three
28:25 main priorities that define our policy in the EU
28:31 will be the defence of sovereignty, the fight against illegal
28:36 migration and the revision of the Green Deal, firstly, I am firm convinced
28:43 that, while respecting the unique cultural
28:51 identities of European countries, we must strengthen the
28:56 sovereignty of each Member State we are striving for a European
29:02 Union based on strong and independent nation states
29:08 but not a federation dominated by Brussels secondly
29:13 we are determined to really solve the problem of illegal migration the recently
29:23 adopted European Union pact must change the
29:29 strict migration policy is fundamental to the security, stability and prosperity of
29:35 European citizens we will work tirelessly on measures that
29:41 ensure the security of the EU's external borders, break the networks of
29:47 smugglers and ensure the rapid expulsion of those who have no right to
29:53 Europe remain every country must have the right and be able to decide independently
29:59 about who will live and work there thirdly we see an urgent
30:07 need to revise the Green Deal our group wants a balanced
30:13 approach to environmental policy that supports sustainable economic development
30:20 and what green has threatened the competitiveness of the EU it has
30:28 slowed down economic development and endangered the competitiveness of our
30:34 industry we will implement solutions that are scientifically
30:40 founded economically viable and socially fair and
30:46 that is why we propose the following changes lifting the ban on
30:55 combustion engines lifting the emission certificates lifting the
31:00 restrictions on the energy industry enforcing equal
31:06 position of all measures for funds and financial instruments we want to
31:13 strengthen energy independence and strengthen the extraction of raw materials and
31:20 these are reasons why the Arau has decided to leave work and
31:26 to form its own group similarly to the parties of the other member states in this new
31:33 group we can fulfil the programme that we promised our voters and precisely because
31:40 we understand Europe very well we are at the birth of this group of
31:46 patriotic and sovereign forces our aim is to build an EU that respects the sovereignty
31:53 of its members, strictly protects its external borders and supports
32:00 sustainable and fair environmental policy we invite all like-minded
32:07 people and parties to join us together we can
32:14 form a stronger and more efficient Europe
32:20 that serves the interests of its citizens thank you so much thank you
32:25 our chairmen for your comments and we are now moving forward
32:31 with the signing of the so-called patriotic manifesto, that is the
32:36 text on which the three parties agreed to serve as a launching pad for the addition of other political
32:44 parties and delegations at the European level and that
32:50 will subsequently be made available to all of them via the official channels and I
32:56 firstly request the Prime Minister of Hungary Viktor Orban to sign this manifesto
33:07 [Music]
34:12 I would like to point out again that this will only be part 1 of a press presentation
34:17 on our part and part 2 will be the part after we have invited all
34:22 political forces at the European level and there are a number of preliminary talks to sign this
34:28 manifesto together with us and then they will lead to the establishment of an EU group at the level of
34:36 the Parliament in a constant consultation process with them
34:41 and will also answer all of their questions accordingly and I may now for the
34:48 very last part we are going to take a group photo, there are three of us here at the front so that we are well equipped with
34:55 image material
35:15 yes I
36:02 many thanks for
36:10 coming soon
36:22 [Music]

Norman

asi sa hlúpo opýtam, ale odkiaľ máš prepis toho videa? Dá sa to niekde priamo na yutube stiahnuť? Nikde to nevidím, ale je už nevidím veci, čo som skôr videl :)

mirage

treba otvorit celu sedu plochu hned pod videom (kde su views a datum) a na konci je show transcript, kliknut a text sa ukaze na pravej strane hore vedla videa (vzdy nad chatom)
a ten jednoducho skopirovat a pripadne upravit v exceli, aby boli timestamps pred textom, (vlozit dve medzery medzi cas a text), pretoze timestamps su bud na samostatnych riadkoch striedavo s textom, alebo sa daju odstranit - toggle timestamps

mam win 10, edge, stiahol som si freeware SafeFrom.net helper, a tak zaujimave yt video si stiahnem na jeden klik malej zelenej sipky, ktora je pri kazdom videe, aj ked je embedded..

ytbsave.com, ummy.net

su aj online programy audio to text, napr z mad. do ang., ale tie su platene, free online som zatial nevidel

mirage

sa dobre videa hned stiahnut, aspon v 360, lebo mozu po case zmiznut..

Norman

Ok, dik, hľadal som to niekde v menu a priamo v okne videa ..., tú šedavinu ja proste neotváram, ináč je to tam pekne veľkým napísané, takže by mi to padlo do oka :) Ale tak to chodí, kto sa neopýta, nevie - aspoň tak to fungovalo v čase pred googlom. Tak reku, či si to nevybral nejakým špeciálnym addonom - ale správne je ako vždy to najjednoduchšie riešenie. Čo by to neponúkli, keď im to generuje automat.
Svojho času sme tu s Amanom aj prekladali titulky zaujímavých videí, ale to bolo moc roboty na malý výsledok. Pred doslovne pár rokmi. Takto sa to dá samozrejme preložiť priam automaticky, lebo ono je to v podstate titulkový súbor.
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Kedysi sa s nejakými addonmi dali videá sejvnúť, teraz je to už štandard v ponuke, ak nemýlim, a tak to už asi skoro nik nerobí :) Ja napríklad už nejak videa na disk nesejvujem, veď keď zmažú, zjaví sa to inde. Všetko je už povedané, ľudia prakticky všetko vedia - len tomu nechcú veriť. Problém nie je až tak ich poznanie, ale ich vôľa , škála hodnôt.

mirage

take videa, u ktorych ma clovek pocit, ze si ich este aspon raz pozrie, napr. 1-2 hod. debaty, analytika.
Mna trochu nahnevalo, ze zrusili vela ruskych analytickych a osobnych kanalov, ine ma v podstate netrapi, lebo to sa casto opat objavi na inych yt kanaloch.

Filmy sledujem velmi malo, netratim na to cas, som prihlaseny iba na ytch par povodnych sovietskych film studii ako mosfilm, lenfilm, odessa, gorkij, nejaky kazasske studia, kde je este spisovna rustina a novsie ako epic media, nejake ruske radia a radsej si pozriem politiku analytiku, linguistiku, kde este ludia rozpravaju spisovnou rustinou a clovek sa aspon nieco dozvie.

Vdea nemusia byt na disku, daju sa uploadnut na svoj ytch ako unlisted a zdielat ich pripadne cez postnutie linku, nebyvaju tak ani problemy s autorkymi pravami, ked nie su verejne

Norman

no, u seba na disku alebo kdekoľvek "u seba" na úložisku ... už je toho toľko, že sa človek k ničomu nevráti, lebo to aj rýchlo zastaráva. Ja videá a filmy rád pozrem, je to pohodlné, ale cením si viac písaný text - má to viacero dôvodov.
Vidím ale, že ty si doslovne rusista. Ja myslím, že vás, skutočných rusofilov, je (už) dosť málo. Prevažne stará škola, nie?
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Z Ruska pre mňa tak takéto niečo: Putinove vtipy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhZOi2y75SM

mirage
mirage

I.N. Ostretsov: A face-to-face argument with nuclear physicists. Thermonuclear fusion is scientific bullshit? Who is right?
https://youtu.be/UT1vo1qra2U?t=9313

Norman

no, dosť možno je cold fussion čosi ako perpetum mobile. Ale tamtá výborná debata je skoro ako debata vedeckých Bidenov :-)

mirage

dve zaujimave videa

I.N. Ostretsov-2024: More alive than all the living. Who rises to the “elite”, who needs Sechin, Judaism doesn’t work

u235 bude potrebny pre osvojenie kozmu a spalovat ho v ja je "uz zlocin proti ludstvu"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrfkaO-2XEU

77,615 views 7 Jul 2024
3:32 Russia-US uranium deal (Gore-Chernomyrdin contract)
3:45 The Russian Federation is completely subordinate to the United States
6:10 What is the main problem of our time?
7:38 Why are nuclear space engines needed?
8:07 Why is Uranium-235 so valuable?
10:52 “Jews regardless of nationality”
12:24 How to stop the war in Ukraine right now
14:00 SDI program, Satan's warheads, as L. Kuchma began

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Vojna vojnou, ale uran podla rozpisu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PD_XDOJFis
(kanal deputata dumy)

Rusi maju z cias zssr v zabajkalsku tisice malych 1.5m centrifug, (kedy usa mali neefektivne 12m) kde obohacuju U a vyrabaju 50% svet. produkcie. Za oceanom sa uz ani neoplati postavit takyto priemysel, maju rf, ktora to pre nich robi zadarmo.
Rf dodava jadrove palivo na zapad za cisla v pocitaci, vyvoz cennych kovov a usd obeziva je do rf zakazany

mirage

na oplatku - ze ich neodpoja od swift?

Norman

"u235 bude potrebny pre osvojenie kozmu"
Aké osvojenie kozmu?
Sme izolovaní nekonečným vákuom. A Slnečná sústava je pre nejaké praktické účely, pre homo spiens, hydrocefalov, no ... bezcenná, nevyužiteľná. Uran, Mars? Suroviny z Mesiaca? Pochybujem, to by tá energia skutočne musela byť úplne zadarmo, a muselo to fungovať úplne automaticky.
Ale energia, aspoň v ušlachtilej využiteľnej forme - nie je zadarmo.
Hydrocefalos sa správa ako saranča, a len dúfa, že nájde nové pastviny. Pritom vie, že nenájde.

mirage

osvojenie, v zmysle hospodarske osvojenie, aspon tria mesiac venusa mars, mozno merkur a pasmo asteroidov.

Na jadrovy pohon predsa mozu lietat aj lode s robotmi-pilotmi, alebo to riadit ako dron. V jap. uz experimentalne neriadi vlaky AI? Nie je to az tak utopia.

Aj vascie sondy by mohli mat jadrovy pohon. To je blizka buducnost.

A daleka - to bude, ked sa ludia budu musiet presunut na mars, kvoli slnku (aj ked to mozno bude konecna stanica)

Ja si myslim, ze aspon nejake experimentalne komunity sa niekam odhodlaju odletiet. Nebudu to cistici telefonnycb sluchatiek.

Norman

ja len že som tan uvidel ten klasický kozmický pozitivizmus.
Všetci sme boli takí pozitivisti - ale povedzme si pravdu - nejde to. Nejde zvážať rudu z planéty na planétu - nie v nejakom industriálnom rozmere.
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Čo sa týka výpravy k iným slnečným sústavám - také niečo môže byť reálne, ale to nie je žiadna záchrana pozemskej civilizácie. Je to len vyslanie génov, dobre, ale treba hladať spôsob prežitia aj tu, pre 99% zvyšku sveta.
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Pravda, človek sa môže zmeniť v transhumanistickom zmysle slova. To už tiež nie je celkom pokračovanie tohto ľudstva - ale povedzme, že to je taká tá základná vývojová línia. Ale vidím mnoho prekážok a málo tendencie k tomu - túto globálnu spoločnosť čaká globálna katastrofa a dystopické časy. Samozrejme to spôsobí prudký úpadok. a ým sa aj akýkoľvek vývoj prudko spomalí.
Samozrejme, možno sú v hre mohutné faktory, o ktorých nemáme a nemôžeme teraz mať ani štipku vedomosti Možno je toto celé len simulácia nejakého undeného idiota, ktorý sa nemal s čím hrať a učil sa programovať svety - a tento sa mu preto ani moc nepodaril. To je možné. Ale ak sa žiaden taký idiot nebude obťažovať, aby svoju simuláciu zachránil, tak táto gulička humusu zvaná Zem vyschne a zomre.

mirage

buducnost nomadov v kosmickej lodi.

cital si sci-fi Non stop (Brian Aldiss)

https://www.databazeknih.cz/knihy/nonstop-4033

Norman

mám rád podobné social SF, lebo tam autori môžu modelovať sociálne situácie, naktorých niečo vidno. ... ale tamto som nečítal.
Ale stiahol som si to teraz, a popri tom narazil na ešte zaujímvejšiu SF (možno som o tom počul, ale tiež som to nikdy nečítal)
Earth Abides
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/93269.Earth_Abides
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to je už už z roku 1949 !
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A disease of unparalleled destructive force has sprung up almost simultaneously in every corner of the globe, all but destroying the human race. One survivor, strangely immune to the effects of the epidemic, ventures forward to experience a world without man. What he ultimately discovers will prove far more astonishing than anything he'd either dreaded or hoped for.
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Je to klasický archetypálny obraz - človek sám na svete, svet bez ľudí.
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No to len tak bokom.

mirage

Pravdepodobne aj prispenim videii tohto byvaleho deputata singarkina, rf nakoniec stoplo ldodavky obohateny U do usa. Hoci treba spomenut, ze usa dovazali z rf iba 25% svojej spotreby a okrem su rozpracovane projekty na tazbu v namibii, kanade, mozno australii, ale bude potrebne niekde postavit aj nove centrifugy (a je otazne ci sa to niekomu podnikatelsky oplati ak cena na trhu nebude dostatocne vysoka)

https://youtu.be/3gznWavRGhY

mirage

putin soferuje auto 15, 18, 21, 24

od 0:25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx9bP3RChOw

Norman

Neviem, každý ma sekretárky, pobočníkov a kto môže, prípadne aj dvojníkov (na otravne nepodstatné oficiálnosti, ako napríklad jazda v zadrbanom aute). Ale to video neznie aj tak presvedčivo - Putin má už roky a ksicht mu tiež už vystužujú, čo je normálne - preto občas vyzerá a správa sa inak.
Keď je nejaká tlačovka a rozpráva tam, vtedy je nezameniteľný :-)
Putin je bezpochyby jeden z najvýkonnejších a najschopnejších politikov posledných cca 100 rokov, celosvetovo, o tom nemôže byť pochýb.

mirage

komedy klub,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB5RySMmVE0

zit by skor uprednostnil v nemecku

neviem, ci som rusofil, jazyk maju paradny, mozno sa mi pozdava noosfera zssr

Ked zacinal konflikt v syrii a nas tu absurdne zacali strasit nejakymi arabskymi hunagelmi aka IS, tak som prestal citat slovensku stoku a presiel najskor na medzinarodne stranky po anglicky, trebars youtube a rozne noviny a potom rovno na ruske, k zdroju
Ale jeden riadok som cital pol minuty a musel som mat otvoreny online slovnik, az ma sokovalo ako som zabudol ten jazyk.

Tak cisto len z tvrdohlavosti som sa rozhodol ho oprasit a to trvalo aj 3 roky, (musel som si vyberat ale stranky, kde komunikuju inteligenti rusi, ako politika, analytika, lingvistika, veda, historia, pretoze bezni rusi rozpravaju otrasne, kalicia tu rustinu, juhorusky akcent (napr. gorbacev) ani moskovsky sa mi moc nepaci, pozeral som aj protiruske stranky tzv 5 kolony napr. echo moskvy), kedy uz zacala ukrajina

Keby som zil v rf, tak strelkov by mohol byt moj spoluziak. Tie cinske horoskopy maju nieco do seba.

Ale sledujem aj polske stranky aj videa, so srbstiny sa mi na pocuvanie pozdava len bosniansky akcent,

Da li će Mladić biti osuđen za genocid?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btgtaQsrXy4

belehradsky ani vojvodinsky vobec, ani chorvatsky, celkom dobra je bulhacina, macedoncina

post sovietske filmy a serialy sa mi vacsinou moc nepozdavaju, hoci daleko lepsie ako nase a ceske, ale maju par dobrych, a par naozaj talentovanych hercov, a hadam 1-2 filmove herecky

mirage

debat na internete, dost mi sedia aj americania, nemci su tiez blizki

debat na internete youtube, reddit, americania mi dost sedia a nemcom sa da tiez dobre porozumiet, su blizki

a

mirage

filmy a seriale trebars z 90 tych, a po roku 2000?

Norman

S ruštinou je to podobné, ako bolo u teba - nikdy som ju dobre nečítal, ale ani preklady som nečítal. Každý jazyk človeka zaujíma do tej miery, ako ho úprimne zaujíma jeho kultúra.
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Srbochorvátština sa mi naopak pozdáva, možno je to príklad pozitívneho vývoja slovanských jazykov
V poľštine na webe pribúda zopár zaujímavých filmov, s titulkami - ale aj tak je ten jazyk foneticky abnormálny - to je privela sykaviek a hlavne tých š, šč a podobne.
Jazyk ovplyvňuje život národa a obávam sa čoraz viac, že narýchlo zosmolené-kodifikované verzie jazykov slovanským národom moc nepomohli. Ale ani nemčina sa v tomto smere nevyvíjala nejak ideálne.
To ovplyvnenie mentality národa - to sú za prvé štrukturálne zložky jazyka, ale obávam sa že aj tá prostá fonetika a akcenty má veľký vplyv na mentalitu národov.
Ale to je jedno, lebo aj v tomto panuje v súčasnosti zásada rozmaznaného konzumu - jazyk sa vraj nemá meniť, má zostať taký blbý, ako sa niekde vyvinul (pričom súčasné kodifikované jazyky boli vytvorené do veľkej miery umelo chorými astenitickými "lingvistami", ktorí do toho guláša dali to, čo sa im z neznámych príčin pozdávalo (príklad Y v slovenčne a češtine ako najznámejší taký príklad debilizmu).

Ale aj keď vynecháme "lingvistpv a kodifikátorov" - ľudstvo je v tomto v štádiu praveku v tom zlom slova zmysle. Ako sme tu mali včera to videjko troch štátnikov na tej tlačovk o novej patriotickej frakcii - traja politici úplne susedských národov, a každý moňďokuje úplne iným jazykom. Veď to je choré, ľudstvo je v plienkach, nevie ešte ani hovoriť, len blaboce. Ako sa môže taký živočíšny druh vôbec označiť za "sapiens"?

mirage

Rustina je najplavnejsia a ma trochu korenia v sebe, v tom, ze vela slov s turkickym kmenom vyslovuje so slovanskou intonaciou. Cestina je druha.

Hochdeutsch a severne rezave dialekty su ok, juzne ako bavorcina presny opak.
Chrochtajuca svajc nemcina ako tak pocuvatelna, rakuske verzie nemciny tiez nemam extra rad, asi kvoli zatahovaniu, hoci su take akoby maksie znejuce, ale zaroven trochu vlezle, tirolcina je divokost ako bavorcina, a napr. viedensky dialekt mi pripada taky pritrubly, akoby nim rozpravali rozvazaci uhlia alebo hostinski

srbcina vs polstina
mozem povedat, ze aj som mal z nejakeho dovodu radsej srbochorvatcinu ako polstinu, dajme tomu tak do 1985, ale neviem presne preco, pretoze na balkane som nikdy nebol, ani pri mori, ci som nieco pocul vo filmoch s titulkami?, z hudby asi nie, lebo ak hrali nieco yugo v radiu, pripadalo mi to hlupo precitlivele, akoby tie emocie mali prekryt slabu a nudnu, na jedno kopyto tahajucu sa melodiu.

Pravdepodobne to ma nieco spolocne s crtami ich tvari, pokial nie su prilis tmavoladeni, maju take sympaticke crty (tj nositelia tej reci su sympaticki), takych postarsich dobrakov z dediny, mozno usmev v ociach, napr. ratko mladic je toho prikladom, aj niektori mladi, (akoby omladeni stari), taka dobrackost, mozno dedinska (balkanska?) lezernost, ako ked sa z boku a mierne z dialky pozeras na kludneho kona.

Srbcina je skor taka dedinska rec pre mna , asi praktickejsia a lahsia na kazdodenne hovorenie, ale zaroven mi pasuje aj k roznym nevyspytatelnym individuam,
a polstina je viac nobl, vyzaduje aj viac energie nou hovorit, urcite mi lepsie znie v pesnickach, je trochu suslava ale aj ostrejsia
aya rl - unikaj zdjec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wjhgjG4_mg
dobra, ked ma text co povedat, zatial so srbstina je lepsia zase pre metal.

Prva pozitivna asociacia, ktora mi pride na mysel pri slove polstina je
pan zna, to ich pan, "onykanie", co je po srbsky iba znash, you know
dalej caste c, napr. v slove ręce (ronce- ruky)
vizualne mi je sympaticke w (warsawa), caste w
vyslovnost ich preciarknuteho L, cita sa ako u, hoci to je neprakticke
a napodiv aj nosovky mi zneju dobre, vid slovo ręce (ronce- ruky)
lepsie sa mi hodi k zenam!

Pri slovesach v srbstine mi nezneju idealne tvary konciace na o, ako ked sa niekto ozve prave ked nieco prezuva, alebo nema vychovanie vid Co? Co jozo ako?
lets go - hajdemo - chodźmy

o mi nevadi v nasich slovach ako mesto, celkovo
a u nas je o spojene s minulym casom slovies - "znelo", a minule to je skor negativna charakteristika, skoncene, prec, buduci cas ma naopak pozitivny nadych

na srbstine ma najviac drazdi to caste koncove o u slovies (alebo casto zdoraznovane koncove o?), stupava koncova intonacia, ked ten clovek zvysuje hlas

najradsej mam u slovies koncovku e, (a hypoteticky dalej pre ostatne samohlasky zostupne, napr. pre nase slovo ideme, takto:
ideme, idemu, idemi, idemo, idema, alebo
(ideme idemi, idemu, idemo, idema)
((ideme, idemi, idemu, idema, idemo))

V 85 som si v polskom stredisku na nam. SNP, kupil cervenu platnu od aya rl, ich prvu, a hned nato este jednu polsku skupinu,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbD_-NjzI4c
a mozno tu som objavil caro polstiny

Neskor som cital na internete original Lem - Solaris a pacilo sa mi to, hoci cesky preklad, tusim od borivoja navratila, je absolutne top.

ci by som chcel aby v case mojho detstva babka hovorila miesto slovenciny po polsky alebo srbsky, to neviem povedat

V juhoslavii som nebol, nemam tak ziadne komunikacne zazitky s tamojsimi ludmi, v tv bol serial horky vitr, zena toho hrdinu sa mi pacila ako skolakovi,
dalej srbski partizani = odvaha

Takze nakoniec to bude indoktinacia kulturou zcasti u mna, ale su tam aj tie racionalne prvky c , w, onykanie s pan.., ktora vystriedala taku romanticku afinitu k dedinskej srbstine, alebo dobrackemu ale bojovnemu srbskemu narodu

Nebol som ani v polsku, v byvalych statoch zssr, bulharsku, rumunsku
Ak si bol v juhoslavii, tak mozno preto ta preferencia srbstiny..

Norman

Jazyk je hlboká forma v mozgu, preto sú postoje voči nemu dané podvedomím, estetikou, nevedno akou a prečo u každého človeka práve takou (nie, nebol som v Jugoške, za socíku sme sa tam nedostali a potom už sa išlo radšej inde. Mne sa zdá, že jej lepšie rozumiem, ako iným slovanským jazykom, ktoré som sa neučil. Mám dojem, že srbština je stručnejšia, má kratsie slová, pády síce má, ale viaceré sú totožné, takže ich má prakticky menej(hm?), slovesá tiež akoby mali jednoduchšie tvary, ako je to u slovanských jazykov. Ale to všetko je len dojem)
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Je to práve chyba až úbohosť vedy, že nedokáže vytvoriť objektívnejšie kritéria aspoň na to, ktorý jazyk je energeticky náročný, náročný na učenie, na používane, na jasnosť, na pomoc pri myslení a podobne. Také veci jestvujú - ale veda ich nedokáže riešiť. Nechce ich riešiť. Nejaké veci sa pohli s kybernetikou, teraz s AI určite tiež vedci veľa porozumeli, konečne urobili zlom a dokážu konečne naozaj prekladať - ale medzi bežnú populáciu, do jazykov ľudí, z toho neprenikli žiadne nové výhody. Až je mi to podozrivé.
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Nárečia majú väčšiu voľnosť, nie sú až tak kodifikované a tak sa vyvíjajú do efektivity. Napríklad bavoráčtina má namiesto "die Leute" to svoje "di leut". Teda zahadzuje zbytočné "e" na konci, tým by mohol odpadnúť aj nešťastný gramatický rod, často používaný člen "die" stráca svoju dĺžku ... také veci majú svoj význam.
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Ale kodifikované jazyky už nebude mať nik odvahu reformovať. Reformovať možno len jazyky nové, mdzinárodné, pomocné. Ale aj na tomto poli hodilo ľudstvo flintu do žita. Zatiaľ.

Norman

Hej, Fico chýbal, ale mohli to spraviť aj bez neho. Ale Smer možno chce ku frakcii socialistov - čo by ale podľa mňa bola HRUBA CHYBA. Ale kedže tam je Babiš aj Orbán, azda to Smeráci dajú a pripoja sa. Ak nie, tak Ficova krv tiekla zbytočne.
Uhríkovcov asi obišli, lebo tam chcú mať skôr Smer - s Republikou by tie dvere zabuchli.

lebleu

Aj Vidlák sa tomuto pred troma dňami povenoval.
https://www.vidlakovykydy.cz/clanky/nedelas-robo-dobre-s-tou-prihlaskou
Tak som to poslal aj na Súmračnú, možno si to prečítajú.

mirage

alebo aj protokol.

Tomu hovorim, cit pre situaciu. Madarsko po piatkovom stretnuti putin - orban zrusilo pondelkove stretnutie s bearbock.

Odhadujem, ze s tou dorou sa stretnu tak o 2 tyzdne.

mirage

Ked ucitelka rustiny na gymnaziu vyhlasila, ze bude puskinov pamatnik a kazdy sa mame naucit a predniest nejaku rusku basen, prelistoval som ucebnicu rustiny a casopis ogonok, ktori sme vsetci odoberali, ale z tych par basni, co tam boli sa mi ziadna extra nepozdavala a navyse sa dalo predpokladat, ze pol triedy si vyberie tu istu basen, tak som si povedal, ze pockam par dni a uvidim, ktoru si vyberiem.
Ked som poobede odchadzal zo skoly, tak vidim, ze pred bocnou vchodobou branou bol privezeny velky kontajner, ktory uz bol plny starych vyradenych ucebnic, ktore asi vypratavali z pivnicnych priestorov skoly.
Tak som tam vliezol a asi hodinu sa prehrababal v knihach, hladal som hlavne rustinu a listoval tie knihy. A intuicia ma nesklamala, nasiel som nejaku bud ucebnicu alebo rusku literatu a v nej bola basen, ktoru som sa nakoniec naucil.
Okrem toho som este v nejakom starom dejepise nasiel zelenych 100 korun - niekto si doniesol asi na uhradu za poskodene alebo chybajuce knihy na konci roku...

Aleksander Tvardovskij

Dom u dorogi

Глава 9
Я начал песню в трудный год,
Когда зимой студёной
Война стояла у ворот
Столицы осаждённой.

И завершаю в год иной,
Когда от стен Берлина
Пришёл солдат с войны домой
Своей дорогой длинной.

Чего, чего не повидал,
Казалось, всё знакомо.
Но вот пришёл, на взгорке стал -
И ни двора, ни дома.

И там, где канули в огне
Венцы, столбы, стропила, -
Темна, жирна по целине,
Как конопля, крапива.

Да груда глины с кирпичом,
Золою перебитая,
Едва видна на месте том,
Уже травой прошитая.

Глухой, нерадостный покой
Хозяина встречает.
Калеки–яблони с тоской
Гольём ветвей качают.

Глядит солдат: ну, ладно – дом,
А где жена, где дети?

Да, много лучше о другом,
О добром петь на свете.

Но не минуешь горьких слёз,
Которым срок не минул.
Не каждой матери пришлось
Обнять родного сына.

Не каждой женщине – жене,
Родной сестре, невесте –
О тех, что сгинули в войне,
В конце дождаться вести.

Ответ не каждому письму, -
Иное без ответа.
Привет не каждому тому,
Чьё сердце ждёт привета.

Но если та горька печаль,
Чьё место свято в доме,
То, может, легче, да едва ль,
Печаль особой доли.

Печаль подвижника–бойца,
Что год за годом кряду
Войну исполнил до конца,
И вот тебе награда!

Присел на камушке солдат
У бывшего порога,
Больную с палочкою в ряд
Свою устроил ногу.

Давай солдат курить табак,
Сходиться люди стали,
Не из чего–нибудь, а так -
В свидетели печали.

Стоят над нею, опершись
На грабли, на мотыги.
Вздохнул один и молвил:
- Жизнь… -

Другой сказал:
- Как в книге…

А третьи только и могли
Добавить осторожно:
- Ещё не все домой пришли
Из той дали острожной.

И отвести старались взгляд
Соседи в разговоре,
Чтоб не видать, как он, солдат,
Давясь, глотает горе.

Не мог он душу освежить
Тем трудным, скрытым плачем…
Всё так.
А надо было жить.
И жить хозяин начал.

mirage

ze z vonku ma nebolo vidiet a najviac sa mi pacil vers

Davaj soldat kurit tabak,

mirage

Ťažké nafty s obsahom vanádu z Ruska:
https://cyberleninka.ru/article/n/tyazhelye-vanadievonosnye-nefti-rossii

Nafty obsahujúce ťažké kovy a ich demetalizácia:
https://cyberleninka.ru/article/n/tyazhelye-metallonosnye-nefti-i-ih-dem...

Prvky vzácnych zemín ako geochemické kritériá pre endogénne zdroje stopových prvkov v rope:
https://elibrary.ru/item.asp?id=11722501

Kovy v ropných poliach v regióne Orenburg:
https://www.iuggu.ru/index.php/2-19-7
doi.org/10.21440/2307-2091-2019-2-56-62

https://cyberleninka.ru/article/n/metally-v-nefti-mestorozhdeniy-orenbur...
Stopové prvky v nafte z polí v Kaliningradskej oblasti:
https://cyberleninka.ru/article/n/mikroelementy-v-neftyah-mestorozhdeniy...

Charakteristika distribúcie ušľachtilých kovov v rope v západnej časti regiónu Orenburg:
https://cyberleninka.ru/article/n/osobennosti-raspredeleniya-blagorodnyh...

mirage

"did you wonder why they buy our oil, which contains the periodic table,
yes, that's exactly why they buy it, that it contains the entire periodic table, - they then extract everything they need from our oil, it's easier and cheaper for them, they don't have their own oils, there are no such oils in Europe, or in Africa, or in America, only our oil contains all the elements.
i.e. all their "light" oil is only good for heating boilers, and our "heavy" oil is good for petrochemistry,
where you can get anything you want from it using plasma pyrolysis and other methods.
and many geophysicists say that oil is not all the same, and the price should be very different. "

nové